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Report of Monday Morning Meeting on Pakistan Factor In India-Turkiye Relations January 29, 2024 Monday Morning Meeting

Mr. Abhishek Yadav, Research Analyst, Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (MP-IDSA), made a presentation on “Pakistan Factor in India-Turkiye Relations” at the Monday Morning Meeting held on 29 January 2024. Dr. Prasanta Kumar Pradhan, Research Fellow and Coordinator of the West Asia Centre, MP-IDSA, moderated the session. Ambassador Sujan R. Chinoy, Director General, MP-IDSA, and scholars of the Institute attended the meeting.

Executive Summary

India-Turkiye relations witnessed divergence during the Cold War but evolved with growing trade, reaching US$ 13.8 billion in 2022-23. While the bilateral trade and investment is growing in multiple sectors, the Kashmir issue remains a persistent political challenge. Turkiye has been supporting Pakistan on the Kashmir issue. Additionally, defence collaboration is a key element in Pakistan-Turkiye relations, driven by factors like pan-Islamism and neo-Ottomanism, among others. There is a need for course correction from Turkiye to unlock bilateral potential between both G20 economies- India and Turkiye.

Detailed Report

Dr. Prasanta Kumar Pradhan introduced the Speaker and delivered introductory remarks. He then invited the Speaker to make his presentation.

Providing a historical overview of India-Turkiye relations, Mr. Yadav highlighted that diplomatic relations between India and Turkiye were formally established in 1948, which got further strengthened through the signing of the Treaty of Friendship in December 1951, that explicitly articulated the principle of “perpetual peace and friendship” between the two nations. However, Cold War geopolitics led India and Turkiye to adopt different paths as India pursued a policy of non-alignment while Turkiye became a member of the West-led military alliances like the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) and Central Treaty Organisation (CENTO). Nevertheless, the relationship evolved over the decades, as evidenced by agreements signed between the two countries on areas like trade, taxation, tourism and customs cooperation.

Citing relevant statistics, the Speaker underscored that bilateral trade between India and Turkiye has witnessed impressive growth in recent years, rising from US$ 7.2 billion in 2017-18 to over US$ 13.8 billion in 2022-23. Mr. Yadav provided concrete examples and highlighted that while Indian companies have invested in Turkish automobile, pharmaceutical and IT sectors, Turkish companies have invested in Indian infrastructure and engineering industries, illustrating deepening economic cooperation.

The Speaker noted that high-level bilateral visits are an important indicator of the priority accorded by both nations to their relationship. In this context, he referred to Turkiye’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s visit to India in April-May 2017, when both countries signed key agreements on culture, training of diplomats, visa regulations, telecommunication and media tie-ups – underscoring the multi-sectoral focus. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Turkish President Erdogan reviewed the relationship at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization Summit in Samarkand in September 2022 and the 18th G20 Summit in New Delhi in September 2023, and noted the increase in economic linkages and potential for further enhancement across sectors. Mr. Yadav also highlighted India’s prompt supply of humanitarian assistance under Operation Dost following Turkiye’s devastating earthquakes in February 2023 as a marker of bilateral cooperation and solidarity expressed by India.

Mr. Yadav spoke at length about the issues on which the two countries have differing viewpoints. He pointed out that Turkiye has consistently echoed Pakistan’s stance on the Kashmir issue. Turkish leaders’ remarks on Kashmir have also sparked diplomatic tensions especially after the abrogation of Article 370 of the Indian Constitution, given India’s firm stand that Jammu and Kashmir (J&K) is an integral and inalienable part of India. Mr. Yadav highlighted that multilateral platforms like the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) had witnessed coordinated efforts by Turkiye and Pakistan to internationalise the Kashmir matter also through its OIC Contact Group on J&K. Trilateral partnerships between Pakistan, Turkiye and Azerbaijan have also emerged, which is demonstrated in joint military exercises and alignment on issues like Kashmir. The Speaker emphasised that Kashmir remains a principal point of divergence that has strained political relations.

According to the Speaker, defence cooperation is a key element catalysing the Pakistan-Turkiye strategic relationship. He enumerated various facets of cooperation in defence, including the purchase of Turkish naval vessels, helicopters and armed drones by Pakistan, assistance by Turkiye to upgrade Pakistani submarines and fighter aircraft, and the conduct of joint exercises and training. Mr. Yadav highlighted that the expanding defence collaboration has introduced an additional variable in the triangular dynamic between India, Pakistan and Turkiye.

Analysing the factors shaping Turkiye’s foreign policy orientation towards Pakistan, the Speaker identified elements like pan-Islamism, Neo-Ottoman ambitions to reclaim Turkiye’s historical glory and geopoliticalinfluence, and the strategic relevance of partnerships with countries like Pakistan on issues ranging from Kashmir to defence technology as key motivations. He pointed out that Islamic solidarity, historical legacy and contemporary policy priorities make Pakistan a coveted geopolitical partner for Turkiye. 

In conclusion, the Speaker observed that while India and Turkiye, as prominent G20 economies, have promising potential for cooperation across diverse sectors, Turkiye’s alignment with Pakistan on India’s internal affairs like Jammu and Kashmir has introduced certain complexities in bilateral ties. Mr. Yadav opined that notwithstanding the volume of trade, Turkiye’s partnership with Pakistan is driven by a multifaceted interplay of factors encompassing history, religious affinities, realpolitik considerations and global ideological postures. A course correction by Turkiye on Kashmir would likely contribute to a more balanced and constructive environment, fostering stronger ties between India and Turkiye. In summation, the Speaker highlighted that pragmatic diplomacy focused on mutual understanding and identification of shared interests would be imperative for India and Turkiye to fully harness the potential of their bilateral relations given the geopolitical intricacies at play.

Questions and Comments

Ambassador Sujan R. Chinoy highlighted the historical and contemporary factors shaping bilateral relations between India and Turkiye. He mentioned the role of Indian troops, including Sikhs, Gurkhas, Muslims and Hindus, as part of the British force during the Gallipoli campaign. He outlined Indian support in the 1920s to Turkiye’s War of Independence, which led to the formation of the Turkish Republic. Mahatma Gandhi himself took a stand against the injustices inflicted on Turkiye at the end of World War I. Amb. Chinoy remarked that Turkiye has been raising the Kashmir issue and trying to seek a dominant leadership position in the OIC. He provided the Indian Government’s perspective on Cyprus and touched upon the dynamics of Turkish drones.

Dr. Deepika Saraswat, Associate Fellow, West Asia Centre, highlighted the geo-economics and geopolitics of economic corridors and subsequent Indian and Turkish response. Dr. Ashok K. Behuria, Senior Fellow, South Asia Centre, emphasised the rise of Erdogan’s leadership in Turkiye and noted surge in business-to-business relations between India and Turkiye. He also touched upon the significance of Turkish drones, Turkiye’s position on J&K and Turkiye’s soft power outreach in Pakistan, as evidenced by Turkish TV drama Ertugrul. Dr. Rajiv Nayan, Senior Research Associate, Nuclear and Arms Control Centre, mentioned about Turkiye’s unique geographical and geopolitical position and its distinct way of leveraging gains from both the West and Russia. He suggested that India will have to shed its classical approach to engage with Turkiye.

After the Q&A session, the Chair gave his closing remarks and ended the meeting.

The Report was prepared by Ms. Gayathri Pramod Panamoottil, Intern, West Asia Centre.

Interaction with Dr. Andreas Østhagen, from Fridtjof Nansen Institute (FNI), Oslo, Norway January 19, 2024 Other

MP-IDSA organised an interaction with Dr. Andreas Østhagen, Senior Researcher, Arctic, Ocean and Russia programme from Fridtjof Nansen Institute (FNI), Oslo, Norway on Friday, 19 January 2024. The theme of discussion was 'Emerging Geopolitics in the Arctic'. The Director General, MP-IDSA, Ambassador Sujan R. Chinoy chaired the Session.

Executive Summary

The session covered issues on the geopolitics of the Arctic, highlighting Norway's role. The Speaker explored various aspects, including resources, routes, and climate change, and discussed emerging players. Emphasis was placed on governance through the Law of the Sea and the Arctic Council, with a mention of India's role in the region.

Detailed Report

In his opening remarks, Director General, Ambassador Sujan R. Chinoy welcomed Dr. Andreas Østhagen and Ms. Filippa Braarud, Second Secretary from the Royal Norwegian Embassy, New Delhi. Amb. Chinoy highlighted that India's connection with the Arctic region dates back to 1920 with the signing of the Spitsbergen Treaty.  He emphasised that India remains concerned regarding the geopolitical developments in the Arctic that have significantly impacted existing cooperation between states. He further mentioned that though the western states have terminated the existing cooperation with Russia, it is important to note that Russia accounts for more than 50 percent of the coastal extent in the region. He mentioned that despite strong western pressures India maintains strong bilateral relations with Russia. He further highlighted that India’s interest in the Arctic remains primarily scientific, unlike China that has larger economic and geostrategic objectives in the region. Ambassador Chinoy pointed out that India’s interests in the Arctic are in tandem with its partners and acknowledged Norway’s role in strengthening India’s scientific research in the Arctic. He mentioned that the Arctic offers multiple opportunities in the near future, for both India and Norway to deepen their bilateral cooperation in the region. 

Dr. Østhagen highlighted that the primary purpose of his visit is to establish connections for future collaboration and gain a deeper understanding of India's viewpoints and interests in the Arctic. He acknowledged India's growing role in the region and on the global stage as a significant power. Examining regional complexities and nuances, he pointed out that the Arctic extends beyond commonly considered factors like climate change, shipping routes, resources, and territory. He mentioned that though climate change and scientific research remain major drivers of states’ engagements in the region, there are several common myths about the Arctic that need to be noted. Dr. Østhagen  mentioned that there are no territorial issues between states in the Arctic and the only issues existing are with regard to extended maritime claims of states in the region. He pointed out that the resources estimates in the Arctic are overexaggerated and extraction of hydrocarbons and other form of minerals from the region is difficult and expensive. Similarly, he mentioned that despite Russia’s emphasis on the development of the Northern Sea Route (NSR) as a future shipping route, there will remain several navigational challenges.

In the second part of his presentation Dr. Østhagen highlighted China’s increasing role in the Arctic, and asserted that this remains a cause of concerns for all seven Arctic states. He highlighted that these concerns are further elevated by the Russia-China emerging partnership. He further stressed that Russia’s dependency on China is significantly increasing, that further adds to western countries concerns. He talked about the US-Canada maritime disputes in the region and highlighted the recent US unilateral action of claiming extended continental shelf claims in the Bering Sea and central Arctic Ocean.  Dr. Østhagen mentioned that there are no  maritime issues between the US and Russia in the Arctic. He highlighted that the maritime borders between both these states remain demarcated by the 1990 US-Soviet Agreement.

In the final part of his presentation, Dr. Østhagen gave an overview of the Arctic Council. He mentioned that though the Arctic Council is not the ‘only’ existing mechanism for Arctic governance, Norway’s core concern under its chairship is to keep the Arctic Council alive and going. He highlighted Russia’s nuclear capabilities in the North and mentioned that Russia is undertaking large scale military exercises in the region. Dr. Østhagen emphasised that with the Russia-China emerging threat perception in the Bering Sea, US is taking advanced measures to protect its interests in the region.

Amb. Sujan Chinoy acknowledged China’s emerging geo-economic and geo-strategic interest in the Arctic. He emphasised that as India’s interests in the Polar Regions increase, there is a serious need to focus on developing India’s independent infrastructure capabilities in these regions.

Dr. Uttam Kumar Sinha, Senior Fellow and Coordinator, Non- Traditional Security Centre underscored the need to look beyond Arctic politics and recognise the importance of scientific exploration. He asked a question about the future role that Norway intends to play in the Arctic Council under its chairship.

Questions and Comments

Mr. Bipandeep Sharma, Research Analyst enquired about the implications of the United States unilateral action for making extended continental claims in the Arctic. He questioned the validity of these claims and highlighted that US despite not ratifying UNCLOS has made these claims, that could have counter responses from Russia. He also asked a question regarding Norway’s parliamentary decision on opening up of the deep seabed mining in the Arctic and its implications from environmental perspectives.

Dr. Rajorshi Roy, Associate Fellow, enquired about the Arctic States response to transboundary resource management. 

Commandant M. Srivastav, Research Fellow, discussed the prospects of opening up of the  Central Passage in the Arctic. He raised questions regarding the rationale behind creating new shipping routes and its impact on climate change. Additionally, he inquired about Norway's view on China's expanding interest, particularly observed in its second Belt and Road Forum in 2019. He further asked about China’s emerging collaboration with Russia on the North Sea Route (NSR) within China's Silk Road initiative.

Dr. Swasti Rao, Associate Fellow, inquired about Norway's approach to addressing tensions in the Arctic while holding the Arctic Chair. She sought insights into Norway's perception, highlighting the need to sustain cooperation with Russia for the Council's success, alongside considerations of the region's securitisation.

Dr. Jason Wahlang, Research Analyst, raised inquiries regarding the geopolitical complexities affecting countries like Kazakhstan, especially in their attempts to diversify trade routes.

Ms. Filippa Braarud, Second Secretary, Royal Norwegian Embassy, New Delhi, stressed the importance of maintaining Arctic stability. She highlighted the extensive scientific cooperation with India, particularly focusing on the research operations in the Arctic. Ms. Braarud also mentioned the common challenges with regard to the coastal management of Norway and India. Lastly, she emphasised the significance of policy formulation through scientific cooperation in the region.

Dr. Østhagen responded to the comments and questions and stated that the Arctic Council will endure amid tensions. He highlighted Russia's shift toward China due to diversification of Arctic interests. He highlighted that Norway is adopting a pragmatic approach in balancing relations with Russia and NATO. He mentioned that the recent US claim on the extended continental shelf raises concerns. He further elaborated that the collective Western presence driven by the US and UK, is expected to increase military activity in the Arctic in response to Russia's remilitarisation. He concluded by stating that the Arctic experiences short-term tensions but holds long-term strategic investment potential.

The report has been prepared by Ms. Simran Rathore, Research Intern, Non-Traditional Security Centre, MP-IDSA, New Delhi.

Event Report on The Prospect Foundation Delegation Visit to MP-IDSA January 18, 2024 Round Table

On 18 January 2024, the Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (MP-IDSA) organised an interactive session with The Prospect Foundation, Taiwan. The delegation from The Prospect Foundation was led by Dr. I-Chung Lai, President, The Prospect Foundation and the session was chaired by DG, MP-IDSA, Amb. Sujan R. Chinoy.  The discussion was followed by Q&A.

Detailed Report

The session began with opening remarks from DG, MP-IDSA, Amb. Sujan R. Chinoy. He observed that it is striking that Taiwan has gone into coalition politics and opined that this arrangement is likely to raise certain challenges in the legislature. Enquiring about Taiwanese perception about the election he invited Dr. I-Chung Lai to express his views on a range of issues including resurgence of Kuomintang (KMT) Party in the recent elections, Democratic People’s Party (DPP) and KMT’s present attitude towards the 1992 consensus, One China policy and potential reunification with China. Amb. Chinoy also asked Dr. Lai about Taiwanese understanding of the United States (US)’ commitment towards Taiwan’s defence in the light of present tensions, the unacceptable means of reunification for Taiwan, probable Japanese position in an event of crisis in Taiwan Straits and reversal of recognition of Taiwan by Nauru.  

Thanking Amb. Chinoy for his observations, Dr. I-Chung Lai expressed that the delegation visit reflected India’s importance in Taiwan’s strategy and Taipei’s intention to convey to New Delhi, its strategic outlook and plans for India-Taiwan ties post the elections.

Elaborating on Taiwan election results he contented that while William Lai Ching-te received forty percent of the votes, it did not mean that the other sixty percent opposed him. The Chinese interpretation that William Lai Ching-te’s position on China-Taiwan ties represents a minority view is incorrect. He emphasised that the election results do not reflect how Taiwanese feel about China-Taiwan relations. Commenting on the 1992 consensus, which is favoured by China, Dr. Lai informed that majority of the Taiwanese consider the consensus as a thing of past, especially after President Tsai Ing-wen declared in a public address in 2019 that Taiwan never accepted the 1992 consensus. He contended that future cross strait politics will have to take the general public view into consideration as Taiwan is a democracy.

With regard to US policy towards Taiwan, Dr. Lai, citing the Taiwan Relations Act and US’ Six Assurances to Taiwan, asserted that US does not recognise Taiwan as part of PRC. On Nauru’s breaking off of diplomatic ties, he opined that it demonstrated continuation of PRC’s coercion politics vis-à-vis Taiwan. He observed that Taiwan’s national strength and international standing will not be affected due to Nauru’s actions and that Taiwan will not engage in chequebook diplomacy to gain diplomatic recognition. Dr. Lai observed that the Beijing Government is unlikely to change its policy towards Taiwan, recognising the new political reality. However, due to China’s own internal economic troubles, interest in stabilising ties with the US and lack of military capability to launch invasion on Taiwan, the possibility of military conflict with Taiwan at present is low. Touching briefly on Japan’s position on Taiwan contingency, Dr. Lai opined that although Tokyo will be compelled to act due to alliance commitment with the US and threats perceived to its own security, the extent of Japan’s involvement in active combat scenario is uncertain. He concluded by stating that developing relations with powerful and friendly countries remains top priority for Taiwan.

Following, Dr. Lai’s presentation, Amb. Chinoy queried whether DPP still subscribed to the notion of ‘One China’ and whether Taiwan continues to engage in developmental activities with the countries who sever diplomatic ties with Taipei.

Responding to these questions, Dr. Lai informed that the idea of ‘One China’ was once temporarily entertained to facilitate cooperation between Republic of China (ROC) and PRC. However, PRC’s interpretation of ‘One China’ policy is unacceptable to Taiwan. With regard to Taiwan-Nauru ties, he informed that the future of bilateral cooperation depends on Nauru’s future reaction because there is precedent in Taiwan to continue programme assistance to countries who broke off diplomatic ties.

Finally, Amb. Chinoy enquired about Chinese goals in eschewing military tensions of the type seen in the aftermath of Nancy Pelosi’s visit. Dr. Lai affirmed that improving diplomatic ties with the US is one of the major goals. Also, as the repercussions to trade which happened due to the military blockade was serious, Beijing and other major powers like the US and Japan are reluctant to let escalate tensions to that level.

Mr. Fei Fan Lin, member of the delegation, concurred with Dr. Lai’s observations about lack of public support for the 1992 consensus in Taiwan. He informed that the Taiwanese consider ROC, Taiwan to be an independent sovereign and perceive no need to declare independence again.

Following the exchange, the Chair then opened the floor for question-and-answer session.

Q&A Session

A question from the Indian side concerned the issue of national identity in Taiwan, and the possibility of a ‘reconciliation of hearts’ between the Chinese and Taiwanese people. To this question, Dr. Lai answered by explaining that due to the internationalisation of the cross-Strait issue, other countries, such as Japan, the Republic of Korea, the Philippines and Australia, not to mention the United States, have a voice in the resolution of any conflict, and the cross- Strait dispute is no longer a binary one between opposing regimes. He also noted that China’s perception of Taiwan is that it is a vehicle to contain China with the collaboration of the United States. Mr. Lin also added to the answer to the above question by noting that President Tsai Ing-Wen had been careful during her tenure to cultivate a stance of equivocating Taiwan with the ROC. He noted that this was a stance the majority of Taiwanese people support and approve of. In response to another question on the impact of a US-China thaw on Taiwan in the coming four years, Dr. Lai noted that the cross-Strait issue is no longer dependent on the US-China-Taiwan trilateral, but has become truly internationalised. As evidence, he offered the new recognitions afforded to the importance of Taiwan by the leaders of Japan, the Republic of Korea, Australia and the Philippines, as well as by democracies in Europe.

Another question from the Indian side concerned the movements of the youth vote in the recently-concluded general election, and whether the return of the DPP to power indicated support among the young for independence. Mr. Lin provided the answer to this question, informing the audience that the DPP had always embraced support from the youth. However, the reason the current election has thrown up surprising results (election of the DPP on forty percent vote share, emergence of the TPP as a third force) is because voters were in general fatigued by establishment parties such as the DPP and KMT. They were not concerned by national security issues, but instead voted on bread-and-butter issues such as housing prices and costs of living. Mr. Lin argued that the TPP, despite the high rates of support it received, does not have a positive policy platform, and revealed that the DPP is well aware of the need to bring back young voters to the DPP.

Members of the Indian side also inquired about whether China had succeeded in the general election in using disinformation and economic coercion to swing votes. By way of an answer, the Taiwanese side presented a mixed picture. In the field of economic coercion they were willing to concede that there was some limited effect of the suspension of tariff benefits accruing to trade with Taiwan under the ECFA signed with China, but noted that the impact was limited as the share of exports to China from Taiwan are declining as the New Southbound Policy diversified destinations for Taiwanese goods, with marked increases noted in trade with the US, Japan, ROK and Europe. India was held out by the Taiwanese side as a new frontier where trade opportunities could be diversified in future. Disinformation, however, has been successful in the assessment by the Taiwanese side, with Chinese-origin propaganda deepening divides in society that have only partially been filled.

In terms of future concerns, the Taiwanese side flagged two issues in particular: worries that the KMT, which has majorities in both the national legislature and municipalities, would pursue independent (party-level) negotiations with the CPC; and the legal hurdles standing in the way of repealing or renegotiating important economic agreements with the mainland to counter economic coercion.

A final query from the Indian side concerned the prospects for US-Taiwan defence cooperation in light of the recent election results. In his answer to the question, Dr. Lai asserted that the impact on US-Taiwan defence ties would become clearer when the identity of the incoming speaker and vice-speaker of the central legislature (the Legislative Yuan) becomes clear. However, he believed, existing projects such as Taiwan’s indigenous submarine programme would continue irrespective of the party in charge.

Before concluding, Amb. Chinoy took the opportunity to ask a set of questions to the Taiwanese side. Firstly, he inquired about the impact of Donald Trump returning to power in the US in 2024. Dr. Lai answered briefly that Taiwan enjoys bipartisan consensus in the US, and that the previous Trump administration’s record on Taiwan was very good, with several initiatives carried forward by the Biden administration. As such, there was no reason for concern.

Secondly, Amb. Chinoy inquired as to the Taiwanese side’s assessment of the US response should China attempt to occupy only the outlying islands such as Jinmen or Matsu. Dr. Lai said that whereas the Pescadores Islands are covered under the US-Taiwan Mutual Defence Treaty and the Taiwan Relations Act, Quemoy and Matsu are grey areas. In any case, he noted that an occupation of these islands would be sure to meet an armed response from Taiwan. However, the US response, if any, would be contingent on circumstances.

Finally, Amb. Chinoy inquired whether there had been any risk assessment of the possibility that Xi Jinping’s China Dream 2049 project would be incomplete without reunification with Taiwan, with the implication that he would take action before that date to ensure reunification. Dr. Lai answered that discussions in Taiwan on the China Dream are divided into two camps, one arguing that the China Dream must be completed before reunification is to be attempted, whereas the other argues that reunification is a necessary precondition to the China Dream. However, the COVID-19 pandemic’s impact on the Chinese economy has put a dent in Xi Jinping’s purported legitimacy, which is predicated on continuous economic growth. Dr. Lai held that the China Dream is Xi’s personal project, not a “sacred manifesto” on the lines of Mao Zedong and Deng Xiaoping’s policies, which were party lines followed by all members of the government. As such, should Xi leave the stage in China, there is no guarantee that his successor would follow through on it.

After the conclusion of the question-and-answer session, the Chair declared an end to the meeting.

Report on the Visit of Delegation from the Polish Centre for Eastern Studies (OSW) January 16, 2024 Other

The Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (MP-IDSA) organised an interaction with the delegation from the Polish Centre for Eastern Studies (OSW) on 16 January 2024. Ambassador Sujan R. Chinoy, Director General, MP-IDSA, chaired the session.

Executive Summary

International developments in the last couple of years, mainly the Russia-Ukraine war and the recent Israel-Hamas conflict have raised concerns over global peace and security. These issues have highlighted the inability of international organisations to cooperate on matters of growing relevance in the post-pandemic era. Two factors which are crucial to understanding these developments are – the relationship between the former superpowers and China’s growing influence. The interaction between the delegation from OSW and scholars from MP-IDSA facilitated a fruitful exchange of Indian and Polish views on such matters of importance, providing valuable insights for both parties.

Detailed Report

In the opening remarks, the Chair, Amb. Sujan Chinoy began by briefly addressing India’s perspective on the unfolding geopolitics around the globe, identifying various divisions, which for instance, have led to weaponisation of trade and technology. The nature of power contestation in recent times and the inability of the United Nations (UN) to deliver on issues of development, peace, and security was also stressed upon. Further, he highlighted the difficulties in international institutions like the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund (IMF), and the World Trade Organization (WTO) working collectively to develop consensus on issues of greater significance in post-pandemic times.

Amb. Chinoy also stated that the G20, under the Indian Presidency in 2023, was a “dream team”.  He lauded the unanimous adoption of the G20 New Delhi Leaders’ Declaration. The grouping successfully focused on developmental, financial, and economic issues as it ought to, rather than being hindered by political matters, which do not fall in its ambit. It is also more inclusive in nature than the G7 as it comprises the members of the Quad, BRICS, IPSA and other such groupings.

Regarding the Russia-Ukraine War, the Chair referred to India’s special relations with Russia while also expressing India’s distress vis-à-vis the loss of lives since the start of the war. India has provided humanitarian assistance to the people of Ukraine and has engaged with both sides. Putting forth his viewpoint, the Chair mentioned that this war is likely to last a while.

Concerning recent developments in the Israel-Hamas conflict, Amb. Chinoy stressed on India’s good relations with both Israel and Palestine and that it continues to send humanitarian aid to the Palestinians, including through the United Nations Relief and Work Agency (UNRWA). Terrorism remains one of the key concerns for India, as the country has been on its receiving end for a long time. The Chair also expressed India’s concern over the humanitarian catastrophe unfolding in the region, which is unlikely to end soon. He further added that Hamas has got deep roots in the region and that there is a likelihood that the Houthis, Hezbollah, or other nation-states, might get directly or indirectly embroiled in the conflict.

With growth and prosperity spreading to wider regions of Southeast Asia, South Asia and the littoral countries in the Indian Ocean, particularly the East Coast of Africa, Amb. Chinoy indicated that the notion of Indo-Pacific has replaced the Asia-Pacific. The former is a much clearer reflection of today’s changing balance of power.  It is more inclusive, democratic, and in tune with the growing aspirations of a much wider arc of geographical space. Thus, the Indo-Pacific harbours the potential for a greater participatory and inclusive architecture.

Reflecting on the US-China tussle, Amb. Chinoy highlighted that the dialogue has resumed for the sake of stability, but relations will continue to manifest various tensions, as some fundamental discrepancies and divergences may arise. He believes that the Chinese are mindful of the potential derailment of their own long-term plans, were they to take any hasty decisions with regard to Taiwan or continue to exhibit the same level of unilateralism, militarization and aggressive behaviour.

Highlighting the growing engagement and a degree of mutual interdependence between Russia and China, the Chair averred that the Russian Federation is not very happy to play the role of an underdog all the time, to a country which has learnt virtually everything from the Russians in the past. He mentioned the difference in how Russia and China challenge the existing international order, where China influences the world order more directly. China is trying to curate parallel orders - for example, through the expansion of BRICS, New Development Bank of BRICS, or their own sovereign lending and banking institutions.

Wojciech Konończuk, Director of OSW, contributed to the discussion by highlighting Poland's priorities in the European context. He mentioned that Poland’s viewpoint is different from India’s. This is mainly due to the difference in their geographical locations, leading to a difference in how both countries percieve recent international developments. It is essential for Poland to focus on the evolution of Russia-China relations. He emphasised that the Poles view the Russian invasion against Ukraine as a war with far reaching global consequences and called it an existential issue for Poland. He noted that the outcome of this war will have a direct impact on the order in the European continent as Russian ambitions go far beyond Ukraine. It is aimed at recovering parts of the former Soviet Union territory and for that it wants to destroy the international order which created Eastern Europe from the collapse of the Soviet Union. Mr. Konończuk agreed that this war will not end soon, even though the initial Russian plan was to end the war in a couple of weeks.

Marek Menkiszak, Head of Russian Department at OSW, noted that Russian policies have a deep interlink between Russia’s internal system and its foreign security policy, which are focused on regime survival. The Russian regime, which went from half-democratic to the current neo-totalitarian, believes that the increase of their sphere of influence in the post-Soviet region is a matter of regime survival. According to Mr. Menkiszak, Russia believes that the West - led by the US - is an existential threat to the regime. Thus, the former is trying to diminish the latter to develop a post-western world order, and is trying to change the status quo using its military capabilities. In achieving this goal, Russia sees China as a necessary ally and aims to avoid any conflict with China. Moscow also seems to believe that making it an indispensable partner to Beijing will create a situation wherein they will have strategic autonomy vis-à-vis Beijing; while enjoying the gains from US-China conflict.

Jakub Jakóbowski, Deputy Director at OSW, shared his insights on how the Chinese view their relationship with Russia, since its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. According to him, the Chinese believe that Russians can achieve their goals, but at a much higher cost. This will lead to a diminished Russia in Russia-China relations and would establish a precedent to undermine the US based security system by force.  In this, Russia is ready to play second to China as it sees China as the lone partner in its fight against the West. He also highlighted that one must focus on China’s original plan of action and not get carried away by the opinion it voices on the world stage. He ended by putting forth the question of – how to engage with India in dialogue and what kind of strategic choices might India make in the Indo-Pacific and European theatre.

Responding to some points raised by the speakers, Amb. Chinoy highlighted that regime survival is not a characteristic of authoritarian states alone but that of democracies too. Any government can be called a regime. However, in this discourse some identify regimes with what they think are more authoritarian states. He also mentioned that global orders cannot be created nor dismantled easily. It is not possible to forge a post-World War II world order, which will be very different from what we have today. A new world order by Russia might not be possible without the destruction of all.

India does not challenge the international order that has been in place since World War II. It is more concerned with the lack of reforms. According to Amb. Chinoy, China is also not seeking the reversal of this order altogether, as it has been a major beneficiary of the same. In his view, Russians are in a reactive mode, whereas the Chinese are in a proactive mode in terms of their actions and policies in international relations. He also urged that we must not forgo the possibility of a reset of US-Russia relations, as there are greater structural similarities in US-Russia relations than Russia-China. In fact, the chances of a post-Putin Russia turning democratic are statistically far greater than that of China, owing to the Chinese Confucius thinking and the communist party.

With regard to India-China, Amb. Chinoy mentioned that India has dealt with military threats to its sovereignty and territorial integrity on its own. It is also less likely to directly join in any conflicts in the Taiwan Strait or the South China Sea in the near future.

Witold Rodkiewicz, Senior Fellow at OSW, pointed out that Russian elites have a completely different view of China. According to him, the Russians admire China. They believe that China managed to do something that Russia failed at. Earlier we have seen Russia turn towards the west, when it befriended the US and now it is turning towards the east, befriending China. Russia cannot afford to have problems with its crucial ally, like it did during the cold war times, thereby deciding to make itself indispensable to China. In all of this, we need to realise that in current times, Russia ties Europe with the US or the western theatre.

Q&A

The interaction was followed by a Q&A session, in which questions regarding Russia-China relations, India-Russia relations, polarisation of Europe, Russian and Chinese role in Central Asia, and the Polish Vs European debate on China, were posed.

The Polish delegation members answered different questions, based on their expertise. They pointed out that the strategic interests of Russia and China are much bigger than any tensions between them. Initially the Russians tried to oppose the BRI but when they couldn’t anymore, they joined it. The Russia-China partnership is based on the need of the hour and the European mindset sees this partnership as immune to any third-party intrusions.

Central Asia is a working condominium, where Russia has accepted the growing economic influence of China. They also emphasised on Russia’s three strategic goals in Europe – to gain strategic control over the post-Soviet area, to create a security buffer zone in Central Europe, and to drastically reduce US influence in Europe.

The delegation members also mentioned that Poland does not have an independent Indo-Pacific strategy. It actively contributes to European efforts in the region and wants to do as much as possible. The delegation emphasised on the need for India and Europe, especially Poland, to engage more actively, given the Indo-Pacific theatre sees a convergence of interests of all the three parties. 

Report has been prepared by Ms. Anusua Ganguly, Intern, Europe and Eurasia Centre.

Report on Interaction with a European Parliament Delegation December 18, 2023 Other

The Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (MP-IDSA) organised an interaction with a European Parliament Delegation on 18 December 2023. The session was chaired by Director General, Ambassador Sujan R. Chinoy. Scholars of the Institute participated in the discussion.

Executive Summary

India and the European Union (EU) are key strategic partners. Amidst a world in flux, there is space for expanding the scope of ties.

Detailed Report

In his opening remarks, Ambassador Sujan Chinoy highlighted the world being in a state of flux amidst the fraying of globalisation. He observed that multilateral institutions have been underperforming, including the United Nations. He felt that a weakened multilateral system does not bode well for global growth, especially in the Global South where a large number of countries are grappling with financial distress in the aftermath of the pandemic and the war in Ukraine. This has put the spotlight on regionalism and minilateralism.

Amb. Chinoy observed that China’s rise has been disruptive and that Beijing has benefitted from the current international order. Today, China appears to be riding two horses - one where it wants to exist in the current world order, which it benefits from, while also being simultaneously critical of the same order, largely due to the order being led by the West and based on Western agendas.

Amb. Chinoy highlighted the emerging global contestation anchored to the seven “Ts”. These include Trade, Technology, Territory, Terrorism, Tenants (Narratives), Transparency and Trust. He also highlighted the global vulnerabilities in the four “Fs” - Food, Fuel, Fertilizer and Finance.

Elaborating further, Amb. Chinoy observed that trade and technology have been increasingly weaponised. Territorial contestations too are on the rise. These include the ongoing situation in Europe and India’s border standoff with China. Similarly, there is friction over systems of economic, social, cultural and developmental governance which has led to a clash of narratives. Meanwhile, there also exists trust deficit amidst a lack of transparency of certain countries' motivations and intentions.

Amb. Chinoy emphasised that China’s ambition of achieving the ‘China Dream’ by 2049 may not come to fruition unless the Taiwan reunification issue is addressed.

Highlighting the ongoing developments in the Indo-Pacific, Amb. Chinoy referred to the presence of European countries, particularly France which he pointed out has a natural geographical presence in the region. He also referred to Germany and the United Kingdom staging a comeback in the Indo-Pacific. He observed that extra-regional powers too are stakeholders in the Indo-Pacific. Therefore, it is wrong for China to claim that Asia is exclusively for Asians.

Amb. Chinoy emphasised that ‘Asia-Pacific’ is an outdated concept. In comparison, Indo-Pacific is a more contemporary and inclusive concept. It reflects a natural transition to a broader definition of growth and development in an arc that extends all the way from the Pacific Rim to the east coast of Africa.

Amb. Chinoy observed that India today has emerged as one of the fastest-growing large economies in the world. India is undergoing rapid transformation, underlined by the overall theme of VIKAS. India’s choices at home and its international priorities form part of a seamless continuum that are firmly anchored in India’s transformational goals. Good relations with neighbours - both immediate and extended - are a priority of India’s foreign policy. The country’s emergence as a key regional and global power is predicated on how effectively it manages its own periphery.

Amb. Chinoy emphasised that India is not guided by zero-sum calculations but by the desire to work with all and to resolve global problems in a cooperative spirit. This includes the scourge of terrorism, particularly cross-border terrorism, which has long affected India but which also poses a threat to others in India’s neighbourhood as well as globally. India’s collaborative outlook has translated into a framework of strategic autonomy based on multi-alignment. And robust military power is a prerequisite for exercising greater strategic autonomy.

Amb. Chinoy pointed out that India increasingly represents the voice of the ‘Global South’. India’s G20 Presidency successfully brought back the spotlight on developmental issues which is the core mandate of the grouping.

Amb. Chinoy highlighted India’s neutrality in the war in Ukraine while also providing humanitarian aid to the people affected by the war. Similarly, he elaborated on India’s support to the two-state solution in the ongoing conflict in West Asia. He observed that New Delhi has maintained excellent relations with Israel while also providing humanitarian aid to Palestine.

Amb. Chinoy emphasised that India is seeking to deepen strategic partnerships, including in the defence sector, with members of the European Union. He felt that the EU should factor in India’s sensitivities regarding the EU Code of Conduct on Arms Exports. He concluded by highlighting the need to establish robust contacts between Indian and European think tanks.

Nathalie Loiseau (Renew, France), who was leading the EU delegation, highlighted the ‘convergence of views’ between India and the European Union on China's assertive rise.  She also referred to the mutual consensus on the need to ‘reorganise’ the weakened global multilateral institutions.

Ms. Loiseau highlighted the emerging ‘fight’ between autocracies and democracies and reflected on the parallels between Russia’s aggression in Ukraine and China’s aggressive posture towards Taiwan.

Ms. Loiseau also highlighted the issue of migration to Europe as well as EU’s toolkit in dealing with hybrid threats.

She posed a question on how India sees the situation evolving in the Red Sea and whether India would be involved in resolving it.

Patrick Berg (ECR, Germany) posed the following two questions:

1. Prospects of India-EU relations with regard to connectivity and EU’s Global Gateway project.

2. Dynamics of BRICS enlargement and the grouping’s future prospects.  

Jaak Madison (ID, Estonia) enquired about China’s electronic warfare and intelligence gathering in the region.

Petras Auštrevičius (Renew, Lithuania) posed the following two questions:

1. Rationale of India’s BRICS and Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) membership.

2. India’s position on conflicts in Afghanistan and Yemen.

Fabio Massimo Castaldo’s (NI, Italy) enquired about the China-Cambodia Naval base, whether China would be more assertive in the future and the prospects of India-EU relations.

Amb. Sujan Chinoy responded to these questions. He stated that the situation in the Red Sea is a matter of grave concern, especially in the event of disruption to commercial shipping. He observed that any disruption to this vital sea line of communication would be felt across the world. He pointed out that India has naval assets in the Gulf of Aden by virtue of being a part of the ‘SHADE’ mechanism. India also conducts anti-piracy operations and assists in escorting ships as part of these operations. There is, nevertheless, scope for India to expand collaboration with like-minded countries.

On BRICS expansion, Amb. Chinoy pointed out that six countries (Saudi Arabia, Iran, UAE, Egypt, Ethiopia, and Argentina) have recently joined the grouping. Together, they add US$ 2.9 trillion worth of GDP to BRICS with the grouping’s overall GDP now being US$ 30 trillion.

On G20, he observed that G20’s overall GDP was US$ 85 trillion before the inclusion of the African Union (AU). The AU’s addition has not only added US$ 3 trillion to the G20’s portfolio but also made it more representative.

On BRICS and SCO, Amb. Chinoy observed that India’s outlook is anchored to issue-based partnerships.

On developments in Afghanistan, Amb. Chinoy highlighted Taliban’s comeback which he pointed out has significant ramifications. He, however, also emphasised the need to ‘live with reality’. He focussed on the need to convince the Taliban to preserve the gains of the last two decades including democracy and the rights of minorities, women and children.

On the issue of Chinese naval base in Cambodia, it was pointed out that China’s foray in Cambodia is part of Beijing’s larger attempts to expand its regional geo-strategic footprints.

On expanding the scope of India-EU partnership, it was pointed out that connectivity projects hold significant potential. It was felt that the India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor (IMEC), while currently on the back burner due to the conflict in West Asia, should not be written-off. Similarly, there is potential for expanding collaboration in industrial and defence industry sectors. Moreover, green hydrogen and green energy offer new areas of India-EU collaboration.

(Report prepared by Dr. Jason Wahlang, Research Analyst, Europe and Eurasia Centre, MP-IDSA)

Monday Morning Meeting Report: Semiconductor Global Supply Chains: An Introduction January 15, 2024 Monday Morning Meeting

Lt. Col. Akshat Upadhyay, Research Fellow, Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses, made a presentation on the “Semiconductor Global Supply Chains: An Introduction” at the Monday Morning Meeting held on 15 January 2024. Dr. Cherian Samuel, Research Fellow, MP-IDSA, moderated the session. Ambassador Sujan R. Chinoy, the Director General of MP-IDSA, and scholars of the Institute were in attendance.

Executive Summary

The presentation summarised the global semiconductor industry and the geopolitical tensions surrounding it. Similar to other technologies, semiconductors initially served military purposes before becoming integrated into broader societal applications. The presentation also delved into the concise history of semiconductor technology, its significance, various types of semiconductors, and the geopolitical implications surrounding them.

Detailed Report

The Session commenced with Dr. Samuel’s introductory remarks highlighting the extensive utilization of semiconductors, tracing back their origins in military applications. He emphasised Taiwan's significance in the global semiconductor industry, along with its vulnerability to disruptions in the semiconductor supply chain due to escalating tensions between the United States and China. Lt. Col. Upadhyay began his presentation by emphasising the profound impact semiconductors have had on shaping the modern world. He proceeded to delve into the technical definition of semiconductors, describing them as materials possessing electrical conductivity falling between that of conductors and insulators. He elaborated on commonly used semiconductor materials such as Silicon, Germanium, and Gallium Arsenide (GaAs). He also explained various types of semiconductors, including Discrete Semiconductors, Application Specific ICs (ASICs), Radio-Frequency ICs (RFICs), Micro-electromechanical Systems (MEMS), and System-on-a-chip (SoC).

He emphasised that the world is operating within the 5th computation paradigm, a concept defined by Ray Kurzweil, with semiconductors as the foundation for a trillion-dollar electronics industry. He also pointed out that this same technology forms the basis for the ongoing competition between the US and China. Lt. Col. Upadhyay also highlighted several milestones in the history of semiconductor technology, illustrating its journey from the confines of research laboratories to widespread civilian use. He continued elaborating on the technological progression using the 6 D’s Exponential Framework. This framework outlines a technology's roadmap before reaching its disruptive potential, offering opportunities for development.
Using graphs and figures, Lt. Col. Upadhyay underscored the transformation of the semiconductor industry from a crowded field of competitors in the early 2000s to its current state, where only a handful of companies possess leading-edge manufacturing capabilities. He further delved into the end of Moore’s Law, explaining that its future hinges on researchers’ ability to develop new materials, manufacturing and packaging techniques, and advancements in computing architecture. One suggestion he offered to extend Moore’s Law is to transition toward 3D technology.

Delving further into the topic, he emphasised the fundamental components of a semiconductor production chain and highlighted various subsets within those elements. He pointed out that many original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) and original design manufacturers (ODMs) procure semiconductors to integrate them into consumer end-products. The typical semiconductor production process spans multiple countries and continents.
Expanding on China’s current status in research and development (R&D) and its share in the global chip supply, Lt. Col. Upadhyay highlighted that China currently lacks a significant presence in critical phases such as design, Electronic Design Automation (EDA) and core Intellectual Properties (IPs). Instead, China’s involvement is primarily limited to the back end, constituting approximately 10 percent of the supply chain.

Regarding the geopolitics of semiconductors, he emphasised that while the semiconductor supply chain is internationalized, it is not truly globalized, as it remains concentrated within a few countries and companies. As an illustration, he pointed out that only one company worldwide, the Netherlands-based ASML, holds a monopoly over Extreme Ultraviolet (EUV) Lithography equipment. Additionally, he noted that the global supply of photoresists, crucial chemicals for semiconductor production, is controlled by a small cluster of companies primarily situated in the US, Germany, Japan, and South Korea. Big tech companies have also entered the chip designing arena, with the likes of Amazon, Google, Microsoft, and Tesla all developing chips tailored for artificial intelligence (AI) applications and cloud services.

To maintain leadership in the semiconductor supply chain and stay ahead of China, US President Joe Biden announced new export controls, which are unilateral and were implemented without any other country's support. The measures include severely restricting the flow of almost all chips and related technologies produced globally into the high-end of China’s supercomputing ecosystem, encompassing advanced GPUs intended for any purpose within China. Furthermore, Americans are prohibited from participating in crucial aspects of China’s semiconductor sector to prevent China from benefiting from US expertise and know-how.

The controls may extend beyond chips as the US has identified AI, quantum information systems, biotechnology, biomanufacturing, and advanced clean energy technologies as fundamental to US national security. However, advanced computing and supercomputers have been singled out as targets for these measures. He also emphasied how the equipped with a 7 nm chip, raises doubts about the effectiveness of the US’s unilateral sanctions. Highlighting the potential scenario, he suggested that companies with significant production facilities in China, such as TSMC and SK Hynix, might not react favorably to these measures. They could exert pressure on their governments to circumvent these measures or seek alternative solutions to replace US technology that cannot be sold in the Chinese market.

Regarding India, he mentioned that chip consumption is projected to exceed US $80 billion by 2026 and reach US $110 billion by 2030. India is one of the world's largest consumer electronics markets, so it makes commercial sense to incentivize diverting supply chains and ensure that Indian startups have robust foundations to compete with international players. Furthermore, achieving multiple governmental goals, such as poverty alleviation and improving connectivity, will require advanced chips.

In this context, Indian initiatives like the India Semiconductor Mission (ISM), launched in 2021, are poised to play a significant role. The ISM aims to provide financial support to companies investing in semiconductors, display manufacturing, and the design ecosystem. He also elaborated on the ongoing projects and partnerships between India and other major players.

Questions and Comments

Ambassador Chinoy, began his remarks by expressing concern about India's absence from the global supply chain, despite the ongoing initiatives. He emphasised China's use of Gallium export restrictions to pressure US allies. Additionally, he posed a critical question regarding what steps India can take to gain leverage in the supply chain. He also expressed his concern and curiosity regarding the potential for electronic scavenging from modern devices such as smartphones, as well as the possibility of reverse engineering. Lt. Col. Upadhyay responded by saying that India should focus on manufacturing, and assembly, testing, and packaging (ATP). He also underlined that India should focus on the foundations and, therefore, focus on the existing 180-nm chips, as it is also economical.

Dr. Rajiv Nayan raised a query about why the US lags behind Taiwan in this field. Lt. Col. Upadhyay responded by highlighting that the issue with the US lies in its companies, such as Intel, primarily focusing on the Integrated Device Manufacturer (IDM) model, whereas TSMC concentrates on niche areas. He also emphasised that China is currently utilising 7nm chips only in limited devices and has yet to scale up its usage extensively. Gp. Capt. Rajiv Narang raised a query regarding which entities in India are eligible for partnerships with the US under the Initiative on Critical and Emerging Technologies (iCET), and whether India's focus is on becoming a manufacturing hub or emphasizing research and development (R&D). In response, Lt. Col. Upadhyay mentioned that institutions like SCL Mohali, in collaboration with DRDO, and IIT Madras are engaged with the US, supported by the Indian Government, under the iCET initiative.

Report prepared by Mr. Rohit K. Sharma, Research Analyst, Strategic Technologies Centre.

Report on Roundtable Discussion with Dr Satish Chandra Mishra, Senior Fellow, Habibe Centre, Jakarta January 15, 2024 Round Table

Dr. Satish Chandra Mishra, Senior Fellow, at The Habibie Centre (Jakarta), visited the Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (MP-IDSA) on 15 January 2024 for a Roundtable Discussion on “Indonesia’s Systemic Transformation and its Implications for its Policy-Making”. Ambassador Sujan R. Chinoy, Director General, MP-IDSA, chaired the discussion. The scholars of MP-IDSA were in attendance.

Executive Summary

The session explored Indonesia’s domestic priorities since the end of the authoritarian Suharto regime. The hits and misses of the subsequent Era Reformasi (Reform Era) were identified. This was followed by a discussion on the current political climate and bilateral relation. The upcoming elections were discussed at length.

Detailed Report

The session began with Director General, MP-IDSA, Amb. Sujan R. Chinoy extending a warm welcome to Dr. Mishra. Amb. Chinoy commenced the session with some of his own observations and a few follow-up questions for Dr. Mishra, to render his assessment during the course of the Roundtable Discussion. The Director General asked the Speaker to provide insight into Indonesia’s relations with China. The latter was asked to speak about Indonesia’s relations with other major powers such as India, the United States, and Australia. Amb. Chinoy also touched on the themes of radicalism and Indonesia’s role in the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation vis-à-vis that of its neighbour Malaysia.

Dr. Mishra lamented the dearth of informed knowledge regarding India in Indonesia despite the love for Bollywood, and vice-versa. He began his discussion with a brief overview of the Suharto-era centralization of power. He noted the existence of a parallel military and civil administration akin to the political commissars of the Soviet Union. Despite the lack of organized opposition to Suharto, the Asian financial crisis of 1997 led to unprecedented violence and political unrest. The subsequent fall of the authoritarian New Order paved the way for a complete overhaul of the social, economic, judicial and political systems of Indonesia. Every aspect of Indonesian life was subjected to these systemic reforms. The hitherto highly centralized government was made more democratic by two laws on decentralization, passed in the year 1999. Dr. Mishra cited the Constitutional amendments and judiciary reforms as two major examples of the systemic transformation of Indonesia.

Dr. Mishra noted that these reforms were homegrown and required no foreign assistance. However, some gaps remain. He cited the political system of Indonesia as a case in point. The political system of Indonesia, he argued, is partly French and partly American in its composition. Although the transformation is still an ongoing process, significant progress has been made in a short period of time. According to Dr. Mishra, Indonesia saw economic recovery within five years of the onset of Era Reformasi. Economic growth has been balanced by a social system that is cohesive. Additionally, the systemic transformation efforts have not been impeded by any fears of instability. Dr. Mishra ruled out any possibility of a Suharto-like military coup. Nation building was always a top priority for Indonesia. Outlining Indonesia’s security and domestic priorities, Dr. Mishra identified nation-building as being the paramount concern. Around 20-30 million new entrants are expected to join the Indonesian workforce this year and thus job creation is an area of concern. He opined that there is a need for generating employment to help absorb the large working-class population.

Establishing an integrated domestic market finds itself among the other domestic priorities of Indonesia. Such a project requires massive infrastructure investment and much of the foreign investment comes from countries such as China and India. Addressing external concerns regarding the “capture” by China, Dr. Mishra argued that foreign investments in Indonesia are not restricted to the Chinese. He also added that the investor always has the upper hand at the initial stages of implementing a large infrastructure project.

Dr. Mishra presented an opinion that despite the impression of the rise of Islamic fundamentalism in Indonesia, with observable characteristics such as more women donning the hijab, there is a need to observe the phenomenon more closely. He argued that although the sharia is increasingly being adopted at the level of local governments, family law has largely been the focus. Additionally, Islamic fundamentalism has not come up in a big way in the national politics despite Indonesia being a Muslim majority country. The total share of Islamic parties does not exceed 20 percent.

On the theme of electoral politics, Dr. Mishra sought to distinguish Malay politics from Indonesian politics. Malaysian politics resembles the British style of politics. Indonesian political structure, on the other hand, draws influence from the United States and France. All elections in Indonesia, across various levels of government, are held on the same day. Dr. Mishra noted a sharp decline in political violence since 2000, thus pointing to Indonesian democracy being quite deeply rooted. Dr. Mishra made a brief mention of US-Indonesia relations since the Suharto days. Pointing to USA’s softpower in the country.

Dr. Mishra concluded his discussion with an optimistic economic forecast for both India and Indonesia. He hailed the advent of an “Asian Century”, endorsing the projection of India and Indonesia as the likely candidates among the Top 4 economies in the near future.

Questions and Comments

Ambassador Chinoy made reference to the release of Abu Bakar Bashir of the Jemaah Islamiya, an influential hardliner who had been incarcerated on account of providing training camps for militants in Aceh and has also been linked to the 2002 Bali bombings.

Mr. Arvind Khare asked for a clearer picture on the decentralized structure of governance in Indonesia. In the light of the political ascension of Jokowi’s two sons, Gibran Rakabuming Raka and Kaesang Pangarep, Mrs. Shruti Pandalai made note of the emerging trend of dynastic politics in Indonesia. Gp Capt. Narang asked for the Speaker’s opinion on whether Indonesia views India as a partner in its industrial growth and military modernization. Cmde. Abhay Singh brought up the issue of corruption as an impediment for economic growth in Indonesia.  Mr. Om Prakash’s question revolved around the expected electoral outcome. Mr. Niranjan Oak enquired about the role of Muhammadiya Islamic schools in influencing elections. Dr. Temjenmeren Ao brought up the issue of Indonesia’s fiscal control on its public debt.

Dr. Mishra responded to all comments and questions from the Director General and MP-IDSA scholars.

Report prepared by Ms. Aditi Dhaundiyal, Intern, Southeast Asia and Oceania Centre.

Report on Visit of the Delegation from the Australian Defence College October 17, 2023 Other

Introduction

A 35-member delegation of the Australian Defence and Strategic Studies Course (ADSSC) from the Australian Defence College visited the Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (MP-IDSA) on 17 October 2023. Ambassador Sujan R. Chinoy, Director General of the Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (MP-IDSA), hosted the delegation led by Rear Admiral James Lybrand, CSC, RAN Commander, Australian Defence College, for a discussion. 

Executive Summary

The delegation from the Australian Defence College (ADC) consisted of serving military officials from the Australian Defence Forces and select public service officials who are undergoing the Defence and Strategic Studies Course from the College. The delegation had an interactive session with the Director General and a group of scholars from MP-IDSA. Amb. Chinoy briefed them on Indian Foreign Policy and India-Australia relations, and topics such as India's stance on strategic autonomy, Indo-Pacific, India’s leadership at the G20 were discussed. Amb. Chinoy answered a range of questions from the delegation.

Report

Ambassador Sujan Chinoy welcomed the delegation and briefly introduced the delegation to MP-IDSA, its mission, and its contributions to the national security discourse in India. Amb. Chinoy made a short presentation on his assessment of the geostrategic environment at a time when the world is in flux. The presentation focused on India’s threat perceptions, the Indo-Pacific, India’s place in the emerging world order, its zero tolerance for terrorism and aspirations for “Amrit Kaal 2047.”  

India’s foreign policy priorities including neighbourhood-first and stance on strategic autonomy were covered in the discussion. India’s place in the emerging world order, its ambition of becoming the 3rd largest economy and the growing scale of strategic partnerships were discussed. Amb. Chinoy highlighted the leadership roles taken up by India in diverse international fora including the G20 which concluded with successful outcomes. He also highlighted India’s emergence as “Vishwa Guru”—in terms of values, “Vishwamitra”—as a global friend and as “Vishwa Vaid”- as a global physician.

Amb. Chinoy highlighted India’s vision for a free and open Indo-Pacific and emerging security cooperation in the region and its commitment to build capacities and working with strategic partners, including Australia.

A Question & Answer Session followed.

The report was prepared by Mr. D. S. Murugan Yadav, Intern, Military Affairs Centre, MP-IDSA.

MP-IDSA Fellows Seminar : India's Pacific Islands' Outreach: Understanding Regional Narratives, Geopolitics and Opportunities - An Introduction. August 17, 2023 Fellows' Seminar

An MP-IDSA Fellows Seminar presentation by Ms. Shruti Pandalai, Associate Fellow, MP-IDSA, on “India’s Pacific Islands’ Outreach: Understanding Regional Narratives, Geopolitics and Opportunities – An Introduction” was held on 17 August 2023. It was Chaired by Amb. Sujan Chinoy, Director General, Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (MP-IDSA). The External Discussants were Dr. Stuti Banerjee, Senior Research Fellow, Indian Council of World Affairs and Mr. Constantino Xavier, Fellow in Foreign Policy and Security Studies at the Centre for Social and Economic Progress (CSEP) in New Delhi. Dr. Prashant Kumar Singh, Research Fellow, MP-IDSA and Dr. Tenjemeren Ao, Associate Fellow, MP-IDSA were Internal Discussants. 

Executive Summary

The narrative of “the return of geopolitics” to the Pacific Island Countries (PICs) has been gaining traction in the larger discourse in the Indo-Pacific, primarily driven by the anxiety over the People’s Republic of China’s (PRC’s) expanding engagement in the region. The aggravation of international tensions are amplified by Sino-US rivalry, even as the Islands navigate intra-regional frictions, economic development challenges, illegal fishing, climate change, and issues related to self-determination and decolonisation. The presentation tried to introduce the relevance of this contested geography to regional and extra-regional players, unpack the internal dynamics of regional tensions, and examine the agency of PICs. It reflected on how China's actions are redefining geopolitics in the region and discussed these contested narratives. Within this backdrop, it also explored how Indian engagement has been perceived in the region and concluded with prescriptive options of steps India could take, including with regional partners, to anchor a meaningful presence.

Detailed Report

The seminar began with the Chair and Director–General of MP-IDSA, Amb. Sujan Chinoy – introducing the topic, panel and giving his insight on the theme of the paper. This was followed by a presentation by Ms. Shruti Pandalai. After this, the external and internal commentators gave their respective insights, followed by a round of questions and answers.

Ambassador Sujan Chinoy

In his opening remarks, the Chair, Amb. Sujan Chinoy gave extensive insights on this topic and made a critical analysis of the paper. He mentioned that China’s growing footprint in the region in regard to regional connect and infrastructural development must be examined. He said that the paper was timely and more importantly it not only introduced the region but also how this region is significant for India’s interests. It also broadly covered many important aspects of this region and sub–regions – Micronesia, Melanesia and Polynesia.

The Chair began by focusing on Micronesia, emphasising how this region in particular was a key theatre of World War II, and how this region today carries a baggage of history, particularly in the context of nuclear testing. He used the example of the Republic of the Marshall Islands. It was occupied by the Japanese first, and afterwards by the Americans. The Chair further highlighted the fact that this region has been at the forefront of negotiations on the problem of climate change. He also mentioned how these countries have filed a case to stop nuclear testing, an issue with historical baggage for the nations here and the PICs have a prominent voice at the United Nations.

Next, the Chair focused on Melanesia, which lies to the south of Micronesia. Many countries like the US, Germany and France, according to him have a deep interest in the region. Australia and New Zealand have traditionally enjoyed a prominent foothold here. There’s also a newfound concern about the Chinese presence here after the existence of a geopolitical vacuum here. About Polynesia, the Chair reflected that it is a huge region and, France is a big player in the region, as it has its colonies there.

At this juncture, the Chair talked about the compulsions that drive the major players in this region. The main reasons these countries propagate their relevance in the region is that they have had a presence there for a very long time. Countries like France and Britain were able to dismiss extra-regional claims due to their colonial history, as well as France holding some land (like New Caledonia and French Polynesia) that grants them an extensive maritime territory in the region. As a geopolitical player, Japan has fought key conflicts in the region and cannot be overlooked. This is especially significant in light of Japan's transformation from a coloniser to a major power investing heavily in infrastructure.

New Zealand, is a smaller player, unlike Australia and has a presence in the immediate neighbourhood. Today, Island nations do not accept patronizing historical dynamics. China is not a new presence in the region. Chinese people have had their presence there through migration. For instance, there are Chinese shopkeepers and businessmen in many Pacific Island nations for long. As a result, China also enjoys the diaspora advantage in the region which it seeks to exploit to its benefit.

China meets the impulse for infrastructural development of island nations, while they view American, Australian and New Zealand’s presence as being at a lower pitch. China has a range of interests in the region. This region is mineral-rich, and countries here have signed up for the Chinese initiative, the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). The access to this area is also significant for security and geopolitical purposes for China, like satellite tracking and countering Taiwan – since some of the few remaining countries which recognize Taiwan are PICs. A critical strategic importance of this area is “breaking out in the Pacific”, since it is the only area where China can actually potentially contain and monitor American presence in its periphery. Russia was also present in the region but had limited itself only to the Kurile Islands.

As for India, the Chair said that he agreed with the presenter that India is vocal as a voice of the Global South and thus PICs come under the purview of India’s outreach to the Global South. There are drivers for engagement with the PICs. India has taken initiatives like the Infrastructure for Resilient Island States (IRIS), which showcase India’s capacity to sympathise with PICs through several iterations since 2014, which is followed by the 2017 visit of Gen. VK Singh to Fiji and PM Modi’s visit to Papua New Guinea in 2021. The Chair also cautioned about the potentiality of outreach that India can have in the region. Its lack of ground presence, and the distance between India and the PICs are major limitations. Also, India has a limited presence also due to third party partnership and our lack of ability to deliver projects we have committed to in time. Better delivery on projects and better focus, like we have been doing in Africa, can ensure that we do better in the Pacific region if that is what we want to do. There is a major logistical problem when it comes to trying to establish and maintain diplomatic presence in the region, and there are also issues relating to security, transparency and accountability.

According to the Chair, while it is true that India has good relations with the US, France, Australia and New Zealand, it does not mean that it can guarantee a better presence for India in the region. But, despite limitations, what plays to India’s advantage is that it is perceived as an alternative to the binary of US–China rivalry and that it is also viewed in a favourable light by the US, Australia, and New Zealand. The Chair stated that the scope of India expanding its presence in the region needs to be examined by scholars. And, at the end of the day, India’s primary region and interests lie in the Indian Ocean Region, while balancing the naval and continental sphere. The Pacific is not a natural sphere for India, but equally, India has interests there.

Ms. Shruti Pandalai

Ms. Pandalai started her presentation by thanking the Director General for Chairing the session and giving some valuable insights from a practitioner’s lens and as someone who has served in the Pacific region. She also thanked Dr. Xavier and Dr. Banerjee for being External Discussants and Dr. Kumar and Dr. Ao for being Internal Discussants for her Fellow Seminar. She stated that her paper is aimed at being a beginner’s guide to understand the new geostrategic space of the Pacific Island region and India’s outreach – in the context of developing geopolitical contestations in the larger Indo-Pacific region.

According to Ms. Pandalai, this region does not only come in focus because of US-China rivalry but also because of its deeply contested past and colonial legacy, as also pointed out by the Chair. It has often displayed the strength of its regionalism with several moments of unparalleled agency in multilateral forums. It is also grappling with existential crisis with the emergence of issues like climate change while navigating through the very complicated superpower competition in the region. From her perspective, this larger narrative started with many scholars focusing on this region in the larger context of Indo-Pacific geopolitics following Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi’s visit to Solomon Islands in 2022 which was concluded with signing of a defence pact between China and Solomon Islands. On the other end of the narrative for her, lie the visuals of Prime Minister Modi’s successful visit to the Pacific Islands for the Forum of India and Pacific Cooperation (FIPIC) Summit. She stated that between these two significant events, a lot has happened in the region – which is paramount to analyse and understand, and which she has attempted to do in this paper.

Following this, she briefly explained the structure of her paper, where she analysed the narrative of ‘return of geopolitics’ to the Pacific Islands and why it gained traction, which for her is the rising anxiety in people while witnessing increasing prominence of China in this geopolitical space. She also remarked that we have been observing exacerbation of international tensions which are further amplified by Sino – US rivalry, even as these islands navigate intra-regional frictions, challenges of economic development, illegal fishing, climate change, and issues related to self – determination and decolonisation. According to Ms. Pandalai, India’s renewed outreach to the region under the leadership of PM Modi has found a wide appeal as also seen in his recent visit. Thus, in her presentation she first introduced the relevance of this strategic geography, followed by looking into the regional tensions and what the existing narratives there are. She was to then expand on how China’s presence has redefined the geopolitics of the region and how it brought more contested narratives. With this backdrop, she would also investigate the scope of India’s engagement with the region.

Ms. Pandalai then introduced the geography of PICs and their location in the map and the sub-regions of Melanesia, Polynesia, and Micronesia. She highlighted how this region has a complicated geopolitical arrangement. This region is often seen as the backyard of Australia due to its geographical location. She also talked about the spheres of influence in the region which are highly contested and overlapping in nature.

She then showed a historical chart which showcased the full historical trajectory of these island nations and their people. Ms. Pandalai specifically focused on the beginning of colonial history of the region with the arrival of explorers like James Cook in the Pacific Islands. She then talked about the 19th century, when the island nations were occupied by different European powers, USA and Japan, followed by the Pacific Wars during the years of World War II. She mentioned that from an American perspective, this region has been like an “American Lake” where Australia and New Zealand are deputy sheriffs for the US. The region has remained majorly neglected and Chinese military presence in the region is feared by the West.

In terms of its economic imperative, Ms. Pandalai stated that there is acute poverty in the region while it is rich in resources. The PICs are dependent on western countries and have poor infrastructure. Entry of China in the region gave these countries options other than the West. On the other hand, in terms of its strategic imperative, this region is a theatre of showcasing of US-China rivalry, and while the US views the region as a part of its concept of ‘Island Chains’ as a defensive parameter, China sees the region as a springboard and an integral part of its “Blue Water Navy” capacities. She stated that the major actors in this region are the US, France, Japan, Australia, New Zealand and China and analysed their respective spheres of influence in the region.

She further stated that the US has 11 controlled territories in the region. It has amplified its outreach to the region under the Biden administration which includes the Pacific Island Summit and Blue Pacific Programme under which the US gives aid to the PICs especially in the domain of climate change. There are many unresolved undercurrent issues between the US and PICs. France, on the other hand, has an Exclusive Economic Zone in the region via French Polynesia and New Caledonia. New Caledonia also has 25% of the world’s nickel deposits. There is also significant focus on PICs in the French Strategy on Indo-Pacific. It has also invested 60 million Euros for mitigating climate change and is also cooperating in the areas of science and technology. France is also relevant because of its colonial footprint in the region.

For Japan, this region is an important strategic region due to fisheries and maritime routes. The presence of Japan in the region is also important for its own security. Japan’s aid to the region has been focused on infrastructure. Nuclear waste is a major area of contestation between the PICs and Japan. New Zealand and Australia are regional powers here. New Zealand poses itself as a nation which is “in and of the Pacific” especially because of its significant Māori population. The Pacific is an important component of New Zealand’s security documents, like defence papers, especially concerning the maritime domain. New Zealand provides PICs with massive aid because of Chinese presence and it is not comfortable with the approach of the US and Australia of militarisation in the region to counter Chinese presence. On the other hand, Australia is seen as a ‘big brother’ by the PICs, a hegemon in the region and thus Australia has testy relations with the PICs. Even though Australia has done a lot of work in the region, it fails to translate into influence with respect to the PICs. Wang Yi’s visit to Solomon Islands was a deal breaker for Australia, which turned out to be a really bad idea.

According to Ms. Pandalai, China has crafted a narrative when it comes to the region which highlights and criticises the actions of the West and historical crimes committed by them. This narrative also banks on the fact the oldest Chinese trading house still exists in the region. For China, the Pacific is an important region because it wants to diminish the influence of and further isolate Taiwan, given that the majority of its diplomatic partners are the PICs. Other than that, it also seeks to limit the US presence at its maritime periphery. The PICs are also an important part of China’s BRI project and are significant beneficiaries of Chinese investments and security agreements.

Further, the Speaker talked about the Pacific Islands’ Forum which expanded the concept of security in 2018 and in 2022 launched the ‘2050 Strategy for the Blue Pacific’. This highlights that PICs have agency especially in the domain of Climate Change, and that for the PICs climate change is a more important issue than geopolitics. She highlighted that China’s increasing engagement with the region is waking up other regional powers and thus there is a renewed focus especially in areas of cooperation like 5G and climate finance.

Ms. Pandalai also talked about India’s relations with the PICs. She mentioned that India has historical and cultural ties with Fiji and PICs’ relations with India have always functioned under the framework of South – South Cooperation. The region started to matter more to India from the prism of Indo-Pacific at least normatively. India has also developed its presence as a development partner in the region. It sent aid to Tonga in 1973 for the first time and since 2006, the approach towards aid and developmental projects has been government-centric. India has a multi-sectoral approach covering areas from education, cybersecurity, climate change and others when cooperating with the PICs. For India, according to Ms. Pandalai, the drivers of engagement with the PICs are India’s rising role as a development partner of choice, beyond the binary of US and China, especially as the President of G20, their support in organisations like the UN, availability of rich resources in the PICs and checking Chinese presence in the Indian Ocean Region and the Pacific. India is gaining a more meaningful presence in the region via multilateral forums like the International Solar Alliance (ISA), Coalition for Disaster Resilient Infrastructure (CDRI), Infrastructure for Resilient Island States (IRIS) and others. She also mentioned the Indian investments in the region and the status of projects in areas like skill development, space technologies that India is working on with the PICs, and the limitations on delivering on those projects. She then deliberated upon ideas for further cooperation, which is the usage of third party resources, in other words, trilateral cooperation – which can be the solution to ‘India’s Delivery Deficit’. Some of the examples that she gave to substantiate this include trilateral cooperation with PICs and Japan in many areas, the US in food sector and cooperation with Australia and New Zealand in high-technologies and France in climate change and other areas.

In conclusion, Ms. Pandalai stated that meaningful presence is not equivalent to strategic overreach, and as an observer one should be careful about that when it comes to India’s outreach to the Pacific Islands. India needs to channel its efforts and resources in areas where PICs actually need assistance for. She also mentioned that climate change and renewable energy are important areas for cooperation for India and the PICs.

Dr. Constantino Xavier

Dr. Xavier complimented the paper, for its timeliness and the way it was presented. He also highlighted that India’s Indo–Pacific strategy does not focus enough on the Pacific region, which is why there is a need to see the best way for India to be present in the region. At this juncture, therefore, a very important and fundamental question to investigate is what is the best way for India to be present there and is this region really important for India? Dr. Xavier held the opinion that India should do less and not try to be everywhere all the time. He also pointed out that we need to understand why would India be needed in the region from the perspective of Australia, New Zealand, Japan and the US. While trilateral cooperation is an effective tool for now, he highlights that it is important for India to find a niche in the long run and work upon it.

Dr. Xavier suggested that Russia could probably be added and that more attention should be paid to the EU and the UK as geopolitical actors in the region. He stated that the section on China was longer than needed since everyone has an understanding concerning Chinese presence in the region. Dr. Xavier also said that India needs to maintain a more consistent diplomatic presence in the region and it is important to analyse how that can be achieved. He emphasised on the need of having Indian missions on ground and not just having one Embassy in charge of many countries. And, by observing the actions and presence of PICs in multilateral and regional forums, and by engaging with them, India can learn from the PICs and other actors there and apply those lessons in the Indian Ocean Region. Lastly, he said that India has a rising profile but its credibility of what it is doing, in terms of the delivery of their commitment is at stake, and sometimes it is rather better to not do anything than to do something badly.

Dr. Stuti Banerjee

Dr. Banerjee congratulated Ms. Pandalai on the presentation of her paper. She suggested that the material of her paper be split into two parts, one focusing on the larger geopolitics of the Pacific Islands Region and the other on India’s outreach and engagement with the PICs. She remarked upon the timely nature of this paper. According to her, this region is not well known and thus it is important to talk about this, and this paper is a nice way to begin research on this region, which is important to understand. She drew everyone’s attention to the fact that there are differing visions of Indo-Pacific for different countries, and China rejects the notion of Indo-Pacific altogether. Unlike for other powers that have been discussed, for China, the PICs are an independent region of their own, are not a part of a larger geopolitical narrative, thus it has a different strategy for the region. India, on the other hand has advantage in the region due to two factors, its non-threatening image and the Indian diaspora. Despite the distance, the PICs are important for India because of economic reasons – financial assistance, developmental projects and so on. She suggested that we should also look into how this region is important from a political and security angle and have a holistic strategic vision.

She also brought out the crucial question of why there was a vacuum created in this region until recently, due to the pull-out and lack of engagement of the US, Australia and New Zealand since the end of Cold War. Dr. Banerjee also emphasised the need to investigate New Zealand’s outlook to the PICs – since that will highlight the differences in approach within the allied nations. At this juncture, she also mentioned the contribution of Indian diaspora in the region, and the role played by soft power aspects like people-to-people engagement and cultural relations in India’s outreach to the region. She then suggested that we also should look into the way PICs are responding to the attention they are receiving and how they plan to leverage that, what do they want and finally what do they expect from India?

She highlighted that it is important to note that there are differences between the PICs themselves and they have different perspectives. Responses of civil society in the PICs to BRI/Chinese presence and actions of other countries is another aspect that needs to be investigated, according to Dr. Banerjee. Lastly, she wanted to know how India is leveraging this strategic focus and its contributions made in multiple sectors in the region? She also asked about India’s underlying interests for being part of these developmental projects – and whether this could eventually lead to PICs collaborating with India in the Indian Ocean Region.

Dr. Prashant Kumar Singh

Dr. Singh congratulated Ms. Pandalai and commented that it was a good paper with a good topic. He suggested that the paper should not be split and should be made into a monograph. He also suggested that there should be a more sharp and in-depth focus on the historical part, especially on patterns of colonialism. According to him, when talking about ‘return to geopolitics’ in the region, we need to focus first on security, economics, environmental issues and debates; the PICs’ interests and demands, like the case of nuclear weapons and then we should come to geopolitics. He thought that there could have been more investigation done on analysing ways in which India could possibly expand its presence, rather than getting restricted to the difficulties and challenges. 

Dr. Tenjemeren Ao

Dr. Ao congratulated Ms. Pandalai for her crisp paper. He thought that the paper could be divided into different sections and the last section had a lot of scope. For him, this paper could be seen as a primer towards understanding India’s evolving engagement with the PICs. He also commended the way Ms. Pandalai analysed the role played by internal and external actors in shaping the region’s geopolitical landscape, in the larger Indo-Pacific. Dr. Ao brought out two major points. First, he commended the realistic approach taken in acknowledging India’s limitations and expectations from the PICs, while the priority for India is its extended neighbourhood. So therefore, it is paramount for India to come up with innovative ways to navigate its resources between the PICs and its extended neighbourhood. He concluded his remarks by highlighting that this region has a complex history and its internal political, economic, strategic imperatives are intertwined and are shaping PICs’ external engagement. The special focus on challenges faced by these countries like climate change and health can help us understand why these countries are engaging with specific powers. He also mentioned that the Pacific Islands’ Forum (PIF) has also identified climate change as the greatest threat for PICs and not geopolitical contestation. And that the PIF could derive some lessons from ASEAN in terms of managing to limit jostling of major powers.

Questions and Comments

There were some comments from the audience. One important comment, highlighted that from the naval side, the Pacific Islands are an important region for protecting the Sea Lines of Communication and the location of the Pacific makes it critical for both Australia and the US and Chinese control can severely restrict their movement. Another comment was focused on the recent elections in New Caledonia and the speculation about French interference. Questions centred around the reasons for India to engage with PICs and what would be the optimal strategy for India to engage with the region.

Ms. Shruti Pandalai thanked the Chair, the Discussants and the audience for their valuable feedback. She responded to the comments and mentioned that her objective was to understand this region through strategic narratives and what India as a leader of the Global South has done and can do with respect to this region.

Report prepared by Ms. Yukti Panwar, Research Intern, Southeast Asia and Oceania Centre, MP-IDSA.

Developments in Pakistan: The Pre-election Scenario January 01, 2024 Monday Morning Meeting

Dr. Ashok Behuria, Senior Fellow and Coordinator, South Asia Centre delivered a talk on “Developments in Pakistan: The Pre-election Scenario” in the weekly Morning Meeting held on 1 January 2024. The meeting was moderated by Ms. Sneha M., Research Analyst, South Asia Centre. Ambassador Sujan R. Chinoy, Director General, MP-IDSA and Scholars of the Institute attended the event.

Executive Summary

Pakistan has witnessed extraordinary political turbulence for the last two years, ever since Imran Khan lost his premiership in April 2022. In the past almost two years, there has been political turmoil occasioned by aggressively partisan positions taken by the civilian political leadership, the military establishment and the judiciary of Pakistan. In the midst of this turmoil, the Election Commission of Pakistan has announced the date of General elections in Pakistan as 8 February 2024. The Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) and Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) are three major parties which are participating in the elections and none of these is likely to muster up a majority unless the votes are rigged. Among these, PTI appears more popular than the rest. However, the nomination papers of PTI’s top leadership including that of Imran Khan have been rejected and the party has challenged such rejection in the courts of law. Nawaz Sharif remains ineligible for contesting the polls even if his nomination has been accepted. PPP’s influence is largely limited to Sindh. Amidst all this it appears that post-elections, whatever be the results, the country is headed for political uncertainty. .

Detailed Report

In her opening remarks, Ms. Sneha offered a brief overview of the upcoming General Elections in Pakistan and said that political turmoil in Pakistan was not new. She said that the current state of affairs was due to the intensity with which the establishment has targeted Imran Khan.

Dr. Ashok Behuria started the presentation by elaborating on the role of democracy in Pakistan’s politics. He said that since the creation of Pakistan, it never had real democracy and there was always a clear stamp of the army on politics in the country. The upcoming elections seem to have been politically engineered by the army to lead the country to a state where the winning dispensation would not be anti-establishment. The army has created all kinds of obstacles for Imran Khan and allowed Nawaz Sharif to come back to Pakistan and campaign for his party, PML-N, which is now being touted as the King’s party. Imran Khan’s nomination has been rejected by the Election Commission of Pakistan and many of the top leaders of the PTI have been arrested and their nominations rejected. Despite all this and circulation of facts in the media casting aspersions on his character and integrity, Imran remains very popular among the people, he said.

Dr. Behuria suggested three possible scenarios: (i) Nawaz Sharif’s party would manage to form and lead a coalition; (ii) a hung house with parties pulling in different directions; and (iii) Imran Khan’s PTI would win a majority. In the first two cases, he said the army will be assured of its continued hegemony while Imran Khan is unlikely to stay quiet and, in all likelihood, demonstrate his nuisance potential on the streets. In the third scenario, he said, if the army finds it difficult to stop Imran, and fails to split his party and stitch together a coalition, it may either stage a coup or continue with a caretaker government or a neutral government of experts. In all these three cases, he concluded Pakistan was heading for political uncertainly.

Throwing light on the way the elections were being seen by Pakistan watchers outside, he said that the US, which was very critical of the process of upcoming elections in Bangladesh, did not appear too bothered about the way the elections were being curated by the army in Pakistan. China, he said, had distanced itself from the process and was watching it unfold in its own way. China may be more comfortable with a system where the army and civilian government would work together and it may be more comfortable with Nawaz’s party rather than with Imran Khan, who had in the past raised his voice against opacity in Chinese contracts with Pakistan.

Chronic political instability and a worsening internal security situation might provide further fuel to the army’s ongoing tactic to use terror as an instrument to push up terrorism in Kashmir and divert popular attention towards India. Dr. Behuria pointed out that the army leadership had not so far reacted to Nawaz Sharif’s statements that Pakistan should seek normalisation and reconciliation with India, which suggested that if Nawaz’s party were to return to power, there was a possibility of restarting of engagement between the two countries. However, it was counter-intuitive to find the army encouraging Nawaz to make such conciliatory statements, while it was orchestrating attacks in Rajouri and Poonch sector, which is creating bad blood between the two countries. According to him, the army, the judiciary, and the political leadership were clearly divided on domestic and foreign policy issues.

Dr. Behuria stated that at the internal level there was a clear division between pro- and anti-Imran forces, which was likely to add to political uncertainty in the days to come. It was interesting to see the Pakistani diaspora participating in the political campaign in the social media in favour of Imran Khan, he noted.

Questions and Comments

Ambassador Sujan R. Chinoy, Director General, MP-IDSA began his remarks by complimenting Dr. Behuria and commenting on his observations that the army would continue with its policy of orchestrating terror in India, even if there would be stability in Pakistan. He also said that it was unlikely that the army would go for a coup when it continues to retain its dominance in Pakistani politics.

After the remarks of the Director General a series of questions were asked about the role of women in leadership in Pakistan, the religious right wing, significance of the Kashmir issue, the role of United States in Pakistan elections, the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and Baluchistan.

Dr. Ashok Behuria responded to the comments made by the Director General and questions raised by MP- IDSA scholars.

The Report has been prepared by Mr. Shailendra, Intern, South Asia Centre, MP-IDSA.

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